In the current study . Subscribe. I was out in my yard and she was yelling at me from a distance. I answered the questions on the Census that are Constitutional, and that is it. They have all the information they need from the IRS. Anyway, this guy knocked twice or three time so I ignored him. Their bosses are going like it even less. Still standing on my porch, I watched her drive back by my house when she left. Want to stay in the loop on class actions that matter to you? She said she would mark me as "refusing" and I said fine and hung up. The Census Bureau can't issue a fine, they have to refer the case to the Dept. I said that I still respectfully declined the survey. They are a toothless tiger. I told the second person who called me that I had already refused to cooperate with the first person who called. Lock and Load. You have no idea. The American Community Survey (ACS), conducted continuously since the early 2000s, is an ongoing survey of just a portion of the population. She left me with a notice of visit with her name and I suppose her personal phone number. 0607-810 expired on 05/31/2008. I would rather pay the $100 fine to keep my freedom in check. I plead the 5th amendment because the government can ask legally, according to the attorneys office, but I can also remain silent legally. And a law without consequences is no law at all. My high school son came home and read the questions and his first response was "this is communist." It is my constitutional right to privacy. I think that I will put this in the woodstove-just don't tell the EPA or they will be here to take away my woodstove. Where is the America I grew up in? Have received two of the ACS forms, both went into the garbage. I immediately informed him that on the advice of counsel I was refusing the survey. That alone, in the wrong hands; is reason NOT to respond to such a blatant abuse of power. I will not comply. In this workshop, you will find out how important the American Community Survey is for the nonprofit community and the unique ways nonprofits can use ACS data. [12] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Fertility.pdf. As soon as they identified themselves as being with the Census Bureau, I quickly informed them that I sent it in. How can a census do any good for schools when these people are never turned away from schools and hospitals and welfare lines? --Paul. They have nothing but their own agenda in mind and any semblance of control we think we have is just that -- a semblance. I plan on turning over any fines or issues to these attorneys I know and I have used them before. I'll see "YOU" on the tube."You Tube". To meet hiring needs in instructional areas, we are hosting an in-person job fair at Oakton High School on Saturday, March 4, 2023 (9 a.m. - 1 p.m.). The woman was carrying a clip board. Unlike the traditional census, which is limited to a simple head count every ten years for the purpose of establishing representation in Congress, the ACS is sent on an ongoing basis to about 3 million homes every year at a reported cost of hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.[2]. He handed me the form which I took and threw in the fireplace, in his view, while he said they'll send more people out. I feel empowered. And, based on the Census, Virginia had 30 percent of the population of the United States. These concern matters that the government simply has no business knowing, including questions relating to respondents bathing habits, home utility costs, fertility, marital history, work commute, mortgage, and health insurance, among others. The ability of our federal government to properly train temporary, and permanent, employees in PII and cyber security are not well represented in recent historical accounts. From what I've read online about the operation methods of the Census Bureau staff that won't have any chance of avoiding a phone call "Computer Aided Telephone Interview" But I'm hoping that by telling them every time that their OMB# is expired it will shorten my interview process somewhat. To posters 190 and 191: Thank you for your input and advice. [2] Jill Wilson, R.I.P., Census Long Form, New Republic, May 12, 2010. https://newrepublic.com/article/74934/rip-census-long-form. I did not receive the additional questionnaire. When we do the ACS on the phone, we do not ask for your SS #, we do not ask how many times you go to the bathroom. Millions of dollars wasted! I am a patriot. I will not submit. don't let this happen! It is pages and pages of personal questions. Your results may vary but that was my experience. Horrible, and a total violation of my rights across the board. [23] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Age.pdf. [15] The ACS questionnaire also demands that persons divulge how many automobiles they own[16] and whether you have trouble getting up the stairs. We have received 3 demands from the Census Bureau. Last night (Monday) he showed up at 7:30. I am so glad to see I am not alone in not wanting to fill out this survey. ", Where did this information come from and why is it on the news? So this is where all of your Constitution quotes mess up. Even in police states, they don't ask these questions asked by the Census Bureau for the ACS. Maybe that is why only one out of every 480 people receive it. The Rutherford Institute has received hundreds of inquiries from individuals who have received the ACS and are not comfortable sharing such private, intimate details with the government or are unsettled by the aggressive tactics utilized by Census Bureau agents seeking to compel responses to ACS questions. and they are the ones who should be paying extra taxes for that. It's a land of the free OK but I ask everyday "for who??" Washington and California residents have filed a proposed class action in which they object to being asked to participate in theAmerican Community Survey, which enquires about certain demographic details more specific than those central to the decennial Census. Ct. 524,and it cannot be too often repeatedthat the principles that embody the essence of constitutional liberty and security forbid all invasions on the part of government and its employees of the sanctity of a mans home and the privacies of his life. So I received two ACS forms in the mail and they are not going to be filled out. The last time I looked, American's had the right to privacy. [4] After a decennial census is conducted, states which have increases in population may gain additional seats in the House of Representatives at the expense of other states. That didn't stop the harassment, visits leaving notes while I was at work, or conversations asking my neighbors questions about me like I was some criminal or something. I took the job because it pays really well. Apparently the obnoxious butt head pounding repeatedly on my door at 10:00 AM (I work at night) was a census worker. [11] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Computer.pdf. There is no legal obligation for you to answer their questions. May the Lord grant my fellow citizens victory in their battles with this unconstitutional invasion of privacy, too. Year: 2021. After four or five visits with three notices taped to the door over two weeks, they seem to have given up. I filled out the form only giving the required information by law and that is how many people live here. Anyway, i thought i would turn it into something funny and started a blog. She said OK, left and then returned again within five minutes, saying it was her job to help me fill it out. It's sent out to about 3.5 million households. Just hang tough and they will eventually leave you alone. That resulted in a letter from the director assuring me of privacy, etc. The Legal Accountability Project. Over a college survey they want me to take. Thank you for being here. The enumeration is *solely for the purposes of elected representative apportionment* I told her the ACS is a violation of the Constitution and I did not believe it would be used to "provide" me schools or hospitals or fire stations, but rather to spy on me. Nevertheless, fines and legal action are technically possible. I ignored the phone when it rang. I said if this "government guy" wanted to talk to me, I would immediately reserve my right to remain silent until I was represented by counsel. I never have, EVER owned an apartment or resort. Unlike the every-10-year census, this survey continues all year, every year. You can find the ACS forms on the Census web site under ACS. You keep referring to the Constitution's original language and writings but that's been beat back again and again over the course of the years. For another 22, the information is used to aid advocacy groups, and in nine of those cases, the Census Bureau states that the responses will be used by advocacy groups to advocate for policies that benefit their groups, including advocacy based on age,[23] race,[24] sex,[25] and marital status.[26]. We need to take a stand and not put up with all the socialist crap the government wants us to do. Again, the the next morning, he left papers in my door that were printed off the internet about why the census is important. The guy at FEMA said he needed my closing statement-I had sent that in but removed all the dollar amounts as that was none of their business. With two teen daughters, I don't want anyone having any extra information. You are not the property of business or governments you are continually the result of your feelings. Are we going to let this happen? Nobody should answer the ACS survey. The visits stopped, and I never heard from them again. Similarly, the plaintiffs contest that nothing in the federal code allows for a fine for refusal to answer the American Community Survey to be considered a criminal offense. As said by Mr. Justice Field in Re Pacific Ry. Miss. So, basically, he screwed the taxpayers because he keeps a log of minutes and gets paid for the time. We don't have a home phone but I imagine the reps will get hold of our cell numbers? she said go ahead i'll wait. all this while he was getting ready for work. It seems to me that *all* the information they need and want should be available to them from our 1040's. As a university student in my early 20s, I returned to school after the summer and mid-semester was called down to my dorm supervisor's office one night. At what location did this person work last week? The oath means something to us and I for one am going to continue to tell them to stick it where the Sun Does Not Shine! Thank goodness for this web site. Firm, clear refusal. I called his supervisor. Again, we refused and she threatened their fine. It's those times that make the job really enjoyable because I share their pride. A practice in which banks refuse to insure mortgages to people living in certain I filled out the decennial census. Just got my second second ACS survey in the last three years. Shame it's only once every ten years. Title 13 of the United States Code, however, requires that the Census Bureau keep this information confidential and subjects employees who violate this confidentiality requirement to a fine of up to $250,000 USD, up to 5 years imprisonment, or both. BTW my survey went into the guinea pig cage, it will come out the same it went in: crap. Got a phone call wanting the birth dates. After reading the notes on this site, I decided - ACSdestination, shredder. He didn't know what to think about that (needed to check the law), and took no action. Don't remember getting the long form but if I did, I would have tossed it unopened since I already did my duty filling out the census and mailing it in. 241, 250, of all the rights of the citizen, few are of greater importance or more essential to his peace and happiness than the right of personal security, and that involves, not merely protection of his person from assault, but exemption of his private affairs, books, and papers from inspection and scrutiny of others. Methodology Statement: 2015-2019 American Community Survey MARCH 2021 6 with populations greater than 65,000) requires a 12-month sample. I answered only the necessary information on the first census, then was mailed the ever intrusive ACS. I didnt think so. If anything, they could have made it easier for us all so we wouldn't have to be in debt for years just to get an education. To complete the survey on the internet, visit https://respond.census.gov/acs. What kind of people do you have working for you? They're people just like you are, Americans just like you are. OMG!! D. oes anyone understand what is involved in managing 300 million people spread out over an entire continent, each thinking all that matters is their individual needs? I am so glad to once again stand up for my individual rights. I have received two forms, and have no intention of responding. Glad I found this thread! It's called the "American Community Survey", and for some who've. If one of these goons shows up at your door you should immediately get out your camera phone or camcorder and put it right in their face and turn it on. Turns out, the worker knew where my husband works and called him there shortly after. why are they taking polls for illegals? We monitored our caller ID and just refused to answer the phone when they called (along with any other numbers listed as "unavailable"). 1121-0292: Approval Expires 09/30/2021. The information that they collect will be used against us in our most crucial moments. I hope this helps. Our surveys provide periodic and comprehensive statistics about the nation. This survey is not some spur of the moment mandate by the current administration. We just got the letter today, to expect the questionnaire. They think that if they exert a little authority, show you a badge, write a stern letter, that you will be too afraid to tell them that they have no right to subject you to this. It's is reminiscent of Hitler's rise to power. If a person of the same sex comes to your door, act like you're interested in them and start touching their hair. One dear government lady actually said she did not have time for prank phone calls. "Isn't that enough?" It's just another way to peg the American people to find out who's doing what. To complete it by mail, simply. More money from the government for that extra lane of highway to make my commute faster. Copyright 2023 The Rutherford Institute. Protect your privacy. This is harassment, I am no threat. and these so called representatives. As a consequence, conspiracy theories flourished and quickly spread. Federal law requires U.S. residents to answer the ACS. There were laws in place to protect those people and they were not protected. Why all the bad-mouthing of these people who are taking these jobs to support their families in these hard economic times? I firmly told her I had no intention of filling out the survey as I felt it was no one's business. If they want more personal financial information, then I suggest they get it from the IRS. I don't get mad about much but privacy is basic American. Their job is to get the form completed, that is all. I threw it away. 5) Arrest criminals from Acorn and stop our tax dollars from funding Acorn and other criminal organizations like them. Let's get them to spread the word. To be sure, the calls were incessant for a time -- anywhere from one to eight calls a day for about six to eight weeks perhaps. As a result of widespread concern and perhaps out of frustration with the survey, several websites have been set up to provide public forums for recipients of the ACS. Get over yourselves. However, we will make it quite clear we will accept the risk and continue to take this stand. How much do I make per year? Thus, if they want a specific task force to track illegals and tax invading americans, then so be it. Do as you see fit. Questions and Answers about the ACS in , , Franais, Kreyl ayisyen, , Polski, Portugus, , Espaol, Vit Ng. And if I were paranoid, I'd be accusing the census takers of taking my new baby's ss card that has still not arrived in my hands in four months! I'm contacting my congressman on this ACS issue today. Bunch of grumpy anti social loners. Unreal! It is the premier source for detailed population and housing information about our nation. Would you believe they just called again? The CFPB has set up a phone number at (855) 411-2372 expressly to help customers in more than 180 languages, and it provides free educational materials on banking in dozens of languages. The ACS program provides estimates annually for all states and for all medium and large cities . Person 22. I informed the caller, "Eric", that I did not wish to participate in the survey and to please remove my name from their phone list and mailing list. American Community Survey questionnaire. I also, as many of you, returned my census form (as I should and as the Constitution requires) but this has gone so far over the line that it's ridiculous. And, further, we cannot wire tap calls coming into this country from suspected terrorists, but we can create bogus laws to try to make us fill out the ACS which provides more personal information than any wire tap could on american citizens. People, look around you and see. First survey last month. [8] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Ancestry.pdf. I was told that they get thousands of calls per day of people complaining about the ACS. If I receive the same treatment again, I may consider filing a class action lawsuit. My wife and I were not home at the time the census work stopped by. Mind your own business. Then I received the long form, ignored it and received another long form which I also ignored. A month later I received the ACS questionnaire, and coincidentally(? Read our Newswire Disclaimer. To those who say they can't publish anything like that, I have seen it. A: There are significant and legitimate questions concerning the authority of the government to require, under threat of prosecution and penalty, that persons answer questions posed by the ACS. During dinner a census worker shows up. Next step will be implanting us with chips, or tattooing our arms. After the first couple of letters I received I started getting harassing phone calls from them. Release Calendar Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. What the hell was someone on Obama's team thinking about? I hollered at the door that "I'm a crippled senior and DO NOT open my door unless its my kids". she yelled through the door announcing her name & bla bla "census, have some questions for you"..I'll just leave my card & you can call me next week!". Access to COVID-19 vaccines was not an issue, given that 93% of . A week later, a woman came to my door and said they hadn't received my form. We said in Boyd v. U.S., 116 U. S. 616, 630, 6 Sup. "I'm afraid my trees are eating the elephants, now." I am appalled at this whole thing and believe me when that survey taker arrives at my door again, she is going to get an ear full. I stupidly started filling out my ACS before I learned of this. What is the ACS (American Community Survey)? thanks for answering back with any helpful info. It has been done since 1790, and is mandated by the Constitution. That's why every selfish person here complains that the government doesn't use resources in the right place; the government waits too long to address problems; the government wastes money. I worked as an enumerator for the 2000 Census. I did not ask for this; this is not an application for credit. It came from data mining by the Pew Research Center. Title 13 section 141, subsections (a) and (d) authorize surveys. Now let me get my cell phone fully charged and ready for the doorbell to ring. This is a very big, complicated country we live in. Most people allow themselves to be bullied and are afraid of breaking some law. The two plaintiffs contest that unlike the 10-year Census, the American Community Survey is posed to a sample of a few million households each year, and those who refuse to answer the questionnaire are subject to fines of up to $5,000 per question. The case contends that the federal Census Bureau lacks the statutory and constitutional authority to force the plaintiffs and proposedclass membersto answer the American Community Surveys detailed, intrusive questions., [The plaintiffs] have in the past and will continue in the future to answer the ten-year Census, the suit states. Networking and interviewing opportunities with representatives from FCPS schools will be available. Official websites use .gov She then stated that she has not talked to the supervisor. The only thing is, I lied my butt off! this is the letter I sent the census bureau. However, the gap between homeownership rates not only persists, but has grown. If that thing were to get lost or some person where I mailed it, there's a lot of things that I don't want them to have. Person 48. The plan to use lap tops to do the door to door counts for non-respondents has already been junked. I'm sick of this. I started my business for 75 cents. I let her know that I understood their game and wasn't going to play, and she said she would record me as a refusal. The census taker left a note me a note today. But I hit the brakes big time when they ask for your birthdate, among other garbage of race, sex, etc. This is crazy -- why is this still going on and why aren't people doing something about it? When a citizen does not answer the ACS within 30 days, a second ACS form is automatically mailed. I would never be pleasant with someone who intentionally makes a living trying to make my life unpleasant. Unfortunately it does not state that the number of people is the only thing allowed to be collected by the census. First time around it ended with phone calls and then they I was given a $25 gift card at the Home Depot. Ha! So go ahead and fill it out 235. Once at 6:11, 7:15, and then 8:05. If you give them a little info they will keep at you until you give in. Due to the unpredictability of the COVID-19 pandemic situation, individuals felt uncertain and insecure. They will report any threats or harassment (allegedly), so be careful how you respond to them. [30] The Census Bureau also maintains that responding to the ACS is mandatory and that recipients are legally obligated to answer all questions.[31]. She informed me that I only had to answer a few questions, and could she come in? Please show me where the US Census Bureau was given the right to fine you or even where they are mentioned in these laws? If they are "anonymous" why do they need my name, telephone number and race? I also mentioned that unless a US Marshal from the Justice Department accompanied him, I would simply ignore him and would call the police if further harassed. I was told if I didn't answer then his supervisor would come out and if I didn't respond to his supervisor, they would return with a Larimer County Sheriff and then I would have to answer or else! Let them in and then fart really loud. He said, "I'll see what I can do." So he then left. At this point, according to the Census Bureau, a non-respondent has a 21% chance of being personally visited by a survey taker. I said, what makes you think I'm going to turn over my personal information to a total stranger knocking on my door. As an employee of The U.S. Census Bureau,I too share privacy concerns,but I must say there's a tremendous amount of misinformation and paranoia here. [5] Unlike the decennial census which is sent out every 10 years, the ACS is an ongoing survey that is sent out on a continuous basis by the Census Bureau.[6]. My blood pressure is through the roof right now after reading this survey. After giving it some thought, I felt compromised by the invasive questions asked, and decided that my right to privacy was surely being violated. They have no authority to uphold the ACS laws and they WON'T take action b/c they KNOW if this survey got out in the media it would be eliminated by public outcry. The Census sites say as much if you read them, something like 'well wee don't really want to fine anyone'. He said he'd have the "government guy" contact me the next day. 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