Funny how theres one standard someone has about bearing false witness to their buddy and another one for me. Hes completely out of Calvary Chapel and is seemingly content as a regular guy although he seems to have realigned his doctrine to something more unorthodox and writes about it often. This will be my last ever participation in one of these exchanges. Church, youve accomplished nothing through this. Miserable, Hugh, You should listen to Michael when he says I did not make Bob Coy have sex with women other than his wife. The story has hit the local news in Fort Lauderdale now http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-calvary-chapel-resignation-20140406,0,5071679.story. Jesus,Jesus, Jesus.in everything Ive read, not one has acknowledged that He died for this very reasonEVERYONE OF US IS GUILTY. Wow, the kingdom is disappointing. Diamond donny, theres a lot of truth in all that. Hey, Open Blogging was closed and I would usually post something like this there, but I really liked this book and wanted people to get a review of it and see why I liked it. You have brothers and sisters in the world that are not able to mention their faith without fear of loosing their freedom or life. Orthodoxy (doctrine) is inseparable from Orthopraxy (behavior); they are components of the same. Thats right, his own church leadership did the judging. This is a test from God and you have failed it miserably my friend. You are working hard to put people into a mold. This is not the gospel of Jesus Christ, and the congregation are idol worshipers. I am not too sure he wanted a small group of believers because the building kept getting larger to accommodate all that were being brought in. Lets see you tie that to Rev 20. Lets give him room to breathe and an opportunity to make things right with God, then his family before we are so quick to cast stones. Which is the essence of the lordship salvation false gospel. Coy wouldn't be charged over her allegations. Hes resigned so let it be. http://www.calvaryftl.org/about/pastorsstaff/pastors/# This is public and common knowledge and has been discussed and admitted from the pulpit I have been present when Fidel and Connie (Johns wife) admitted it to an audience. Also, by that time there were a few millionaires who attended. Ixtlan, Yes I completely understand this. The Bible is clear on how to handle all this so there really isnt much to argue about. "Religious leaders have a tremendous amount of power over their flock," says Scott Thumma, a professor of sociology of religion at Hartford Seminary who has studied the Calvary movement. Im not really a fan of the pastor-centric model for this reason. I hope there is a place for restoration to ministry someday also, God has used this man in a mighty way in multitudes of lives. Whatever happened to preaching The Bible, and not ones own brand of The Gospel? But Daddy held me down and the truck went over me, she said. How am I sure there are details? The devil is a liar and trickster but God is the truth and his will shall be done. Thats the issue. I know it is difficult to understand that something good will come from this. Its all good. (Flores was eventually convicted of sex with the minor.). I know God is not surprised by all this but we all need to get a grip! Everybody sins. Calvinism and Dominion ism are completely different as well. You said that the 1,000 yrs had to be taken literally. It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. I figure that is why you are now circling your wagon around Coy. If you believe that the posting of any material infringes your copyright, be sure to contact us through the contact form and your material will be removed! Youve mentioned Ashley and Connie so I get the impression you have respect for them, talk with them I know them both, not well but they are both solid to say the least. BTW, Flynn, that might prove 3 1/2 years of tribulation, not 7. who have been chosen ACCORDING TO THE FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD THE FATHER, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. A poor man has the few options left to him when she leaves him with his shame. When we forget that, thats when we abuse the offices entrusted to us, men and women both. When you live in the mindset of the privileged then you begin to objectify everything in terms of how it takes care of you. Its not that I am questioning you, just that what you say rings truer to what I have heard in the past. , -, -, ; , . In this blog, I want to share with you my thoughts on how the Catholic faith affects our lives. He threw away everything, his family, his vows, his integrity, his reputation is forever damaged..why??? That same year, the church found itself in a bizarre scandal centered on a lucrative, 400-station radio network and its head, Idaho-based Pastor Mike Kestler. And Ill be glad to talk with you via Skype, FaceTime, or in person about my comments if we ever happen to be close enough to each other. In other words you are fighting for a literal 1,000 yr period for a non existent kingdom. Apologies are step two. There is another one in Daniel 3 He ordered the furnace heated seven times more than it was usually heated. Now according to your view of numbers in Daniel, they would need to check the temperature with their thermometer and raise the thermostat from 400 degrees to 2,800 degrees. Bob is still as precious as ever to our Father. You wont get hard news from them on one of the Sacred Cowsunless maybe a Ted Haggard b/c it was dude on dude. For one thing if you had accountability partners and people that youre answerable to like you claim, then you would not have this blog as a tool of Satan, accusing the brethren, you are just a discontented wannabe pastor who meets in a living room with 10 people, criticizing and begrudging the work of God because youre not part of it! We wait until we know and can prove what we know, then we report. And the harmony in the animal kingdom and man will no longer be afraid of the wild beasts, only of the raging false teaching Calvinists! God bless. I think it is worth reading. That was my first church. in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually. He has opportunity to confess, repent and turn back to the faith he knows so well. And btw, to anon Im guessing you have never ever ever commented on Ted Haggart, Jim Bakker, your boss, neighbor, etc. Where were his accountability partners??? Michael says: February 9, 2020 at 7:20 am. We all have the propensity. MLD, again, Acts 2 isnt speaking on the truth of a literal 1000 years in Revelation. Im not going to print anything that I cant verify, but I have the same fears you do. Loss of friends. Most commentators will agree that seven times is seven complete revolutions of time, being a unit of a year for each time. When we objectify we act as gods. Bob Coy's income source is mostly from being a . Bob messed up, and now may everyone involved refuse to be offended and proceed forward to continuing victory in Christ. And dont forget that one of MacArthurs disciples, Francis Chan, is constantly preaching that American Christians are too rich and need to give it away to the world, as part of his works-based errors concerning the Gospel. With a sitcom dad's wholesome looks, a standup comedian's snappy timing, and an unlikely redemption tale of ditching a career managing Vegas strip clubs to find Jesus, Coy had become a Christian TV and radio superstar. Do you think the bottomless pit actually has a padlock? "My heart is breaking for my Church, my Pastor and his family," wrote Marie L. Harris in a Facebookcomment. If he was a preacher of grace and not telling me what to do on the radio this might not be so hypocritical. Lorenzo is in great need to know about Jesus from the gospels. Lol, they remind me of the dwarves in The Last Battle, who couldnt see the reality of Aslans return because they were so locked up in their dark world (help yourself to the symbolism there mr. Calvins disciple, plenty there for you)! NO man is perfect! Whats up with that? However, keep in mind that Coy would sue me into oblivion if I was wrong. And I have a sincere question about him. Please understand I dont mean that condescendingly, it just is fact. Michael, youre kicking against Gods goading and your colors are showing. Diane Coy is scheduled to speak at womans conference in ccphilly in a couple of weeks. I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said: 15 So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation,[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniellet the reader understand 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. {} 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. Please disagree with vigor if you choose, but lets not make it personal. Can you please point me to the confession of these women? The fruit of the message or from the teaching is different than the personal fruit if a person does not heed that message, so the fruit I am talking about, are the hearers, those that heard the message and were saved by the message, and were edified and encouraged by the message, Im talking about those who grew by the doctrine they were taught and not only did they hear the word but also put that word into practice, and if they did then yes, we will see the fruit of that doctrine as they grow to also produce fruit! There is little doubt that the makers intended for us to be concerned. When it comes to judging their own sinprivate meeting and dont judge!. Nothing special about me, only the strength the Lord provided. I know for sure that I wouldt want my own sin, and hypocrisy exposed for the whole world to see. The church is over 2000 years old. The less-er donors got a buffet lunch. I personally experienced an unfaithful fianc prior to the wedding and she was very involved in the church so I can sympathize as well as empathize on this issue. I still have the cassette tape. His family is leaving. Oh did I spoil your little party, are your dirty little garments full of ulterior motives showing as you point your self righteous little finger at others and relish in their fall! ALL THEY HAVE SAID WAS MORAL FAILURE NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. Hugh if you are going to MOCK at least read the Bible before you mock people who do actually read it. Maybe God never intended for Bob to have the mega church, Bob has said many times publically he would rather has a small congregation of true believers than thousands of people playing church. how do you know Pastor Bob wasnt victimize? Thank God that through Jesus we can find forgiveness no matter how much it hurts. Careful with that pride sir:). a new church down the street] Against the dysfunctions of the church [ Why cant we all just get along? Dusty you make an excellent point. I have consciously stopped being friends with certain guys because there was too much of a bond being created that could have gone on to be something more. Who ever got that car? (My friend and I agreed to disagree about Coys handling of Scripture..or, the lack thereof, deciding it would be best to study separately rather than keeping our yearly tradition of doing a combined study.) Smith, the founder of the Jesus People and the Calvary Chapel movement, and one of the most influential figures in modern American Christianity, died Thursday morning at his home in Newport Beach after a two-year battle with lung cancer, church officials said.
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